M: As I cast my mind back [voice becomes weaker], we didn’t have the state of consciousness that we have now. It took billions of years to develop, but our goal was the arrangement of particles and force fields, working not just by ourselves, but with billions of souls on the inner planes, working to draw in the right comets, the right collisions. Much of it was planned, much of it was happenstance—the way the universes were created.
But when the Earth formed creating a habitable field, a great call went out for those that create life. Now they had something to work with. And so they were given great freedom and encouragement to create [pause, searching for words] whatever worked. And so there was an explosion of life, of plants, the ocean, huge reptiles, amazing creatures and forces of life, the energy of life, created on this planet. So different from what it is now. Life was ferociousness then.
And then the higher planetary souls that govern, called for Earth’s great transformation. Much of the work done by those (original) creative Souls needed to be wiped out, in order to create a habitable place for yourself, humankind. Wise Beings have had a lot to say about the development of man, many experiments.
S: Why was a simian, an ape-type body, chosen for this race? For Souls or spirits to inhabit?
M: Part of those genetics were used to develop the human body. But the human body became a much higher being. Other beings influenced man’s development. Man took on this form because it was practical. Two hands, opposing thumbs to grip, a two-hemisphere brain to think, a mouth to breath and eat and express language, legs long enough to run, and a body that could climb, hunt, and swim. It was versatile, suited to its environment. And so the most appropriate bodies were the human form, which survived. In the beginning, there wasn’t a plan for man to turn out the way he did. There was a hope for mankind to develop in the fashion that it has.
Now humankind is going through another transition. I’m coming into a new life. Those that are in harmony with my being, are in harmony with my heart energy and mind, will evolve. Humankind will look the same, but their nervous system will evolve to be able to carry subtler energies from myself and the higher planes. Humankind will become able to comprehend more complex ideas. They’ll develop the ability to create in harmony with their higher intelligence. Humankind will eventually become spiritual adults. This is what we are looking forward to. This is the process of what’s happening now.
S: I want to back up a moment. I have a question. Of these experiments in creating mankind, you mentioned that other beings influenced us. Are you speaking of other physical beings from other worlds?
S: What we might call extraterrestrials or off-worlders? From other star systems?
S: How did they influence the development of mankind? For example, did they inject some of their DNA into man, or tinker with that? Can you speak of that?
M: They are not allowed to interfere. They are allowed to influence. There are creative souls without physical form that work with the DNA structure, influencing that. What you call off-worlders cooperated, or were allowed to create a support system for life to take hold.
M: [In my own voice,] Scott, I need to stop for a while. [I interrupted here and requested a break. The powerful energy coming through my body from this super-conscious being was too much for me to endure. I couldn’t take it anymore. During the trance, I’d been experiencing not just the edges of consciousness of this amazingly large being, but its memories, and my ancient memories. I felt too weak to continue the session. I went to the restroom and returned to the recliner to sip some water. I explained to Scott what I was experiencing and that I wasn’t sure if I could continue. He sympathized. He encouraged me to do a little more. Scott quickly and easily returned me to a very deep, hypnotic state, and we continued.]
S: I want to ask Tudigong, in this life of Ma Sin, what was the purpose in making this incredible connection with this human being in that lifetime? Why did you open yourself to convey this vast information to Ma Sin? Was there a purpose behind that?
M: Ma Sin had no idea of this connection. He only felt my presence then. His heart, his body, and mind reached a rare moment where they came into harmony with me. It was a transforming moment for this Soul. Up until now, It [Michael’s Soul] had no idea of the depth of Its connection, or of Earth’s relationship with any other planets, or the way the galaxies and planets formed. No idea! It was through your guidance that he remembered that spiritual experience long ago. It was through your skills that he connected to Earth consciousness and understood Earth’s connection to other planets, that opened this awareness, this wisdom that is being expressed now.
Ma Sin was like many fortunate Souls who come to a momentary equilibrium where all doubts are suspended, where all viewpoints fall away. There comes a single experience of awe, as if being reborn, a falling away of ego, and the experience of blessings—bliss.
Ma Sin, his Soul, has expressed itself through many bodies and through this body, Michael Kramer, right now. This Soul has been involved in many adventures, but rarely connected to the deeper, whole spirit of Earth. Most Souls never connect. If they do, it’s often in a superficial way. The reason this point was brought home, was because this experience that he had as a Chinese man was a singular, unique event in all of his lifetimes. And so, that experience has been brought forward and linked to this consciousness.
S: And Tudigong, why, at this moment in time, for this Michael Kramer life, why was this singular experience made conscious once more?
M: Michael is at a transitional state. He’s made great efforts to hide from society and go unnoticed because of—many reasons—because of the lifetimes that he’s had. But now he is being invited to share with society stories of his many lives, and of his experience with Source. Society is changing. It’s not like it was when he was born. It’s changing at an exponential rate, though it may not be evident. Higher Souls are being drawn in and expressing themselves. And as they express themselves, the energy and consciousness rise, and other Souls tap into that. This uplifts all mankind.
And of course, there are those who don’t wish to change. They choose to cling to their present state. They will be allowed not to change. They will be allowed to maintain their stubbornness. They will evolve at their own rate. And so, this is not only his contribution. This is our contribution, the result of many Souls working together. If he can do this work he’s being invited to accomplish, great! If he’s unable to do it, other people will come forward, but they won’t have the same story. And it is his stories that contain many lessons.
S: Tudigong, I have many more questions, and yet I’m concerned about this body here.
M: I’ve taken care of the body. I’ve raised it to a higher vibration. A lot of the restrictions that he was experiencing have been balanced out. So you can continue.
S: Michael, do you agree?
M: [In normal voice] Yeah. I feel so much better. I’m floating. I’m going back up again. [I rose up again into a beautiful space, experiencing this amazing consciousness and view, seemingly floating high above the Earth, and yet being part of It.]
S: What advice do you have for Michael Kramer at this very moment?
M: Breathe in slowly, deliberately, stilling your mind and conscious, drawing in your higher soul energy. Connect with that—and then be playful. You know how to create. Be playful with the things you don’t know how to create. Approach them with the same sense of playfulness, the same sense of exploration. If you put your mind and heart to it, you can work out the details, the words, the paragraphs, the publisher, the readers, the talks that you’ll have to do—we’ll help work those things out for you. Just take a big breath, connect with your higher self—and us. [Note: At this time, I’d only written the first three chapters of Soul to God.]
S: Tudigong, a while back, you said that you have a frustration with mankind. Can you talk about that?
M: Imagine that you have a healthy young body. Imagine that you have the flu. Your body aches. You don’t feel well. Mankind is my flu. This doesn’t inhibit my functioning. It draws from my energy. My own immune system will be righting itself. The path of humans is governed more by higher souls who work with humankind, not by me. But these higher beings are not unsympathetic to what I’m experiencing. It’s difficult to endure all the anger, mistrust, and destruction.
S: Is it the physical activities of man that bother you so?